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014: Your Time is Now – Fundamental Friday

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Your Time is Now!

Theodore Roosevelt said, “The only man who never makes mistakes, is the man who never does anything.”

I believe that 80% of success is just showing up., taking action, and learning as you go. Afterall, luck favors the prepared.

It’s said that the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now. So what will you wish you would have done today, in 20 years?

No, really. Think about it. What will you wish you would have done today, in 20 years? Watch the next episode of House of Cards? Scour pinterest for DIY ideas for pallet bed frames? Or maybe start educating yourself on a topic that you’ve been putting off?

So why should you stop procrastinating and get started taking action? Well, for one, it’s much simpler than you think! Think back to a time when you put something off because you dreaded doing it. Maybe the dishes, or getting an oil change in your car. Once you did it, you probably realized it didn’t take as much effort or time as you thought. Taking action towards your goals is the exact same. More good news is if you break your goal into small steps, it immediately becomes much easier to accomplish!

The hurdle to getting started is often in your mind. You might be afraid that you don’t know everything about the topic, before you get started. Well guess what? You’ll never know everything! It’s not even possible to know everything without doing it! SO why try to learn everything there is to know about it, before getting started?

This is the single biggest mistake people make when setting out to accomplish something.

So how can you learn to not let that get in your way?

Start by breaking your goal, task, dream whatever it is your working on into smaller steps. This immediately makes things achievable through small actions. Don’t wait. It’s not going to get any easier. You won’t be more sure about it tomorrow. If you’re having concerns about your probablility of success, find someone who has done what you want to do. Join a network, find a mentor, or surround yourself with like-minded people.

Let’s put all this into a scenario:

You want to retire in the next 15 years?! Seems pretty daunting! So instead of just making excuses of why that’s not plausible for you, or convincing yourself that’s not what you really want, rather put together a plan of action!

Simply start by setting your goals. – Let’s say you want to have $4000/month in passive income in 15 years so that you can retire. Great! That’s the first step already done! You’re already on your way to accomplishing your goal.

Next outline what it will take to accomplish your goal? Let’s say that’s 20 rental properties the produce $200/month each. Now you’re making real progress by turning a dream into reality!

Here’s where it starts to get hard. Now you have to start taking action. How are you ever going to buy 20 rental properties? Well, start with educating yourself. Read books, listen to podcasts, surround yourself with like-minded people. You’ll eventually learn how to find properties, analyze the deal, and find the best loan.

Next thing you know, you’ve bought your first property, then second, then third, and before you know it, you’re truly a real estate professional with 20 properties in 10 years, not 15 years! By 15 years, you’ll thank yourself for taking that one day to write down your goals and taking action!

You see how this all started with taking the first step?

The best news, you can accomplish literally anything with this simple mindset! Anything in this entire world! Things you can’t even imagine today! Things you didn’t know existed!

So take that first step. Take action. One day, you’ll look back and be glad you did.

That wraps up this week’s Friday Fundamentals with Jacob Ayers.

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We have some great guests lined up over the next couple weeks. We’re going to be interview some guests who you can make a part of your own team! I’m going to continue to give shout outs to people who have reviewed the show starting next week! I look forward to reading your reviews!

As a thank you, I want to give you a gift! Click the link to redeem your free Audible trail and free audio book of your choice!

And also, please let me know what you think of the show! After all, I’m here to help you and that’s where I want the focus of the show to be. So please, if you have any questions or comments or just want to drop me a line, I would love to hear from you. You can contact me at www.JacobAyers.com or email me at info@JacobAyers.com.

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013: Getting Started with Fourplexes with Nathan Allen

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Nathan is a real estate investor and adventurer. He owns a fourplex in Oklahoma City, and has been travelling through Central and South America for the past two years. Nathan began his real estate investing career understanding the power of multifamily properties. He is now actively searching for 80-130 unit apartment communities.
Lightning Round
1. What was your biggest hurdle getting started in real estate investing, and how did you overcome it? Nathan wasn’t sure where to invest initially. With time, he became more familiar with the areas he was interested in. He started looking at a market, and refined it into areas of that market, then specific neighborhoods, down to the specific street.
2. Do you have a personal habit that contributes to your success? Determination and Visualization.
3. Do you have a favorite online resource? BiggerPockets and MeetUp
4. What book would you recommend to the listeners and why? Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki 4-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferris, Richest Man in Babylon
5. If you were to give advice to your 20 year old self, what would it be? Have focus and avoid the “shiny object syndrome”.

Key Points
1. Investing in Fourplexes
2. Travelling while owning a property
3. Finding your first deal

Nathan’s Reasons Why
Nathan knew he wasn’t good at being an employee. Nathan wants to have time freedom. He’s not motivated by material possessions, although he appreciates them just as much as the next person. Nathan was naturally drawn to real estate as his vehicle to achieve time freedom.
Resources
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
4-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferris,
Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason
Visit Audible for a free trail, and a free audio book download.
Interview Links
http://www.bluealamo.com/

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012: Cash Flow Over Retirement – Fundamental Friday

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Cash Flow over Retirement
Many people start their life with a blue print from their parents. This blue print looks the same for most people. Go to school, get good grades, go to college, and then get a good paying job. While that’s certainly a path you could take, and most do, it has one major flaw in my opinion. That plan only get’s you to your early to mid twenties, and then you’re left working for an employer until retirement.
Now I know our parents didn’t intentionally give us bad advice. It’s just what they knew at that time. Now days there are no pension plans to supplement your retirement. The average lifespan is constantly increasing, which extends your retirement years. Unfortunately, retirement isn’t what it used to be.
That leads the next point. I want to take a minute and talk about the concept of retirement. Retirement has never quite made sense to me. In this context, I’m referring to retirement as working until you are 65+, while saving money in a retirement account such as a 401k, IRA, or even in a shoe box. Retirement is deciding you have enough money to live the rest of your life on. So is the goal to die before your money runs out? What if you outlast your money? Is that good or bad? Well you’re alive, but don’t have any money to live on.
Our actions around retirement are even a bit strange. Here’s a quote by R.C. Sherriff that says.
“When a man retires and time is no longer a matter of urgent importance, his colleagues generally present him with a watch.”

The whole idea has never made much sense to me, and I never realized it until I made it to the final chapter in my blueprint.
So I set out to redesign my blueprint. I don’t want to wait until I’m 65+ to retire. That’s not to say I don’t want to work. In fact, I like working. I just don’t want to be forced to work for someone else on terms other than my own. Rather than focusing on saving money for retirement, I have turned my efforts towards building multiple streams of passive income that will last well beyond my lifetime, through real estate investing.
Through this route, you could become financially free (or retire, in theory) as soon as you had enough cash flow to support your basic needs (this is your freedom number). Say for example you need $4,000/month to pay for your housing, transportation, food, clothing, utilities, etc. That is your freedom number. Now those are only your basic needs – not the extras, such as vacations, gifts, donations, entertainment, etc. By calculating your freedom number, you can determine how much passive income you’ll need to be financially free.
With real estate investments, you can achieve financial freedom much sooner that you could by saving a large nest egg to last the rest of your life. The earlier you want to retire, the larger your nest egg has to be to support your longer retirement. This lease less time to build that retirement nest egg.
So what does your blueprint look like? Become financially free through passive income? Or work for the rest of your life and defer income and life experiences until your later years? Or something else? I would be interested in hearing your ideas. I know those aren’t the only two routes in this life, and there are many blueprints out there.
I want you to live a life of fulfillment you deserve. Life is short. Make the most of it!

Jeff Greenberg

011: The Extra Zeros in Multifamily Investing with Jeff Greenberg

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Jeff is the Managing Partner of Synergetic Investment Group. Since 2007 Jeff has been investing in multi-family assets in emerging markets. He focuses on acquisitions, investor relationships, contract negotiations, business systems development, business management and asset management.
Jeff has over forty years’ experience in management, staff supervision, development and training. He has proposed, implemented, and supervised million dollar budgets for government agencies, as well as private and public organizations.

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010: Your Abundance Mindset – Fundamental Friday

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The Abundance Mentality
According to the World Bank, the Gross World Product in 2013 was nearly $75 Trillion dollars. Yes, 75 trillion, with a T. This essentially means, there are $75 trillion dollars in the world economy. That’s a lot of money. So why I am telling you this? I want you to realize there is no shortage of money in our world. In fact, there isn’t even a finite supply of money, with governments printing more and more every day. Now, I’m not a renowned economist, by any stretch of the imagination, although, we’ll have one on the show in the future.
So with that said, realize that you don’t have to save money, like’s it’s disappearing or there isn’t enough of it to go around. Once you realize that money isn’t a scarce resource, you’ll begin to treat it differently, and start to control it, rather than letting it control you.
Next I want to talk about how you think about money in your personal life.
M any wealthy people have said that you cannot save your way to wealth. You can only contract so much. You can only save so much of your income.
Saving is a hard thing, and even harder for others. To save 25% of your salary is considered “good” by most finance gurus. Saving 50% is quite the feat. Now let’s just say you could in theory save 100% of your paycheck (although that’s not really possible because you need at least the basics of shelter and food). But we’ll pretend anyways. Well, for one, that would take a tremendous amount of sacrifice. You would have to forego on almost everything. And what do you get in return? 100% of your salary saved.
Now imagine if you put the effort you took to save all of that, into expanding your means. You can expand your way to wealth, where there is virtually no ceiling. There’s no barrier that limits how much you can expand or earn.
This was a real paradigm shift when I was first introduced to it by the combination of Keith Weinhold and Robert Kiyosaki.
I started focusing on how to expand my means, through multiple income streams from real estate investing and other business ventures, rather that stretching my paycheck from my W-2 day job.
Once I realized there is abundant wealth in this world to be had, I started focusing on how to attain that wealth for myself.
You might be thinking, ok well how do I expand my means? The awesome thing is, there are endless ways to expand your means. You could:
– Learn a new skill that will increase your value in the workplace
– Learn a different skill and start a side hustle
– Or a million other things that you could do for extra income.
Now while those are all great ways to get started by expanding your means, I have a few more examples that I prefer. You could:
– Earn passive income from real estate, by buying rental properties.
– Build a business that can run without you (although that’s easier said than done)
– Find something you love that doesn’t feel like work, and serve other people by doing that thing, whether it’s teaching people that skill or using that skill to serve others, and
These are just a few actionable ways to expand your means. And even if you aren’t actively building a business or buying income producing rental properties, you can still expand the greatest asset you already have, and that’s your mind. Never stop expanding your knowledge, because one day that knowledge will be worth something.
Now let’s think about what your life would look like if you rejected this abundance mindset. You would for one, be constantly worried about money. You would wonder if your retirement fund is adequate to sustain you through retirement. You would wonder if your paycheck will provide you with just a “good enough” quality of living.
You could spend your time trying to stretch your paycheck by researching when the best time of the day to fill up your car with gas is, and where the best priced fuel in town is. You can spend hours cutting coupons to save a few dollars. You can pass on the niceties, and I don’t know about you, but I can’t go to chipotle and not get the guacamole. Yes, I know it’s extra. But I’ll make that up by expanding my means.
Just last week, I went to a nice dinner on vacation, and ordered fresh caught Redfish. It was the first time I’ve ordered something on the menu at “Market Price”.
Now I don’t know about you, but market price used to mean absolutely not for me. I mean, what is market price even?! I didn’t know and wasn’t about to find out. But now, I’ve realized that I’m willing to pay the price. And it’s not because I’m uber wealthy or irresponsible with my money. It’s because I’m focused developing that abundance mindset. To me, money isn’t my goal. It’s just a tool that will help me achieve me goals. I want to be able to spend time with my family when I want. I want to be able to live where I want, and do what I want to when I want to.
Now, I want to clarify something. I’m not telling you to go out and spend all of your money, and figure the rest out later. Money isn’t going to just fall in your lap because there is a lot of it in this world. But focus on how you think about your time and money. I challenge you to do a bit of self-reflection and analyze your mindset on wealth. Go ahead, get the guacamole. And after you do that, get back to expanding your means and build a life you deserve!

That wraps up this week’s Friday Fundamentals with Jacob Ayers.

If you’re getting value out of this show, please let me know by leaving a rating and review in iTunes. Please subscribe to the show to be notified of new episodes! We have some great guests lined up! I’m going to continue to give shout outs to people who have reviewed the show starting next week! I look forward to reading your reviews!
As a thank you, I want to give you a gift! Click the link to redeem your free Audible trail and free audio book of your choice!
And also, please let me know what you think about this format! After all, I’m here to help you and that’s where I want the focus of the show to be. So please, if you have any questions or comments or just want to drop me a line, I would love to hear from you. You can contact me at www.JacobAyers.com or email me at info@JacobAyers.com.

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009: From Duplexes to Large Apartment Communities with Reed Goossens

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Reed moved to the U.S. in 2012 to pursue a career in structural engineering, however he discovered a passion for real estate investing.

With limited funds and no credit, Reed went from purchasing a small duplex to growing his own real estate investing firm, RSN Property Group.

Reed now syndicates large multi-million dollar deals across the U.S.

Reed Goossens certainly lives up to the “never say die” Aussie attitude when it comes to being a successful entrepreneur.

Reed is also the host of the up & coming podcast, investing in the U.S. An Aussie’ s Guide to U.S. Real Estate, wherein he invites other distinguished real estate investors and entrepreneurs to speak with him about their success and help guide other international investors who want to successfully invest in the U.S.!

Lightning Round

1. What was your biggest hurdle getting started in real estate investing, and how did you overcome it?

Just backing yourself. There’s a fear of being uncomfortable. It’s ok to be uncomfortable and understating that is something you have to realize.

2. Do you have a personal habit that contributes to your success?

Exercise. Reed is a fast paced guy, and is always on the go. Reed likes to

3. Do you have a favorite online resource?

BiggerPockets.

4. What book would you recommend to the listeners and why?

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

The Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferris

5. If you were to give advice to your 20 year old self, what would it be?

Don’t give up the experiences in life. Keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll get there eventually. Never give up, and be better than the day before.

Key Points

The power of OPM – Other People’s Money
The power of mentorship – learning from people who are where you want to be
Managing your expectations and working towards your goals.
The 4 P’s – Professionalism, Pitch,

Reed’s Reasons Why

Reed’s original why is financial freedom. Reed wants to control his own time. Reed likes to create something, teams, businesses, and a sense of fulfillment.

Future Goals

Reed’s goal is to expand his portfolio to 3,000 units, and close on 500 units this year.

Reed wants to grow his investor’s capital and grow into a very reputable company. Reed will hire an asset manager in the next 12-18 months.

Reed’s goal is to develop financial freedom through his real estate investments, and enjoy the journey along the way.

Resources

Visit Audible for a free trail, and a free audio book download.

Start Raising Capital Like a PRO! The 4P Rule! By Reed Goossens

Interview Links

http://www.rsnpropertygroup.com/

reed@rsnpropertygroup.com

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008: The Apartment Syndication Model – Fundamental Friday

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Hi and welcome to the Real Estate Way to Wealth and Freedom Podcast. You’re listening to the Friday Fundamentals with Jacob Ayers. This is a short episode that will air every week, in addition to our weekly guest interviews.
Here we’ll talk about a quick real estate investing topic and provide resources and actionable content for you to implement every week.
As I mentioned last week, I want to give a shout out to a couple 5 star reviews from iTunes.
5 Star Review from Mentally Strong says “Love the content Jacob provides. Super helpful interviews that have tons of usefulness. Can’t wait for more!”
Another 5 Star review from DrMarcD says “Great show that gets right to the point with actionable strategies for anyone interested in real estate investing. Fantastic interview with Michael Becker, a banker turned investor with great insight from someone with experience on both ends!”
Thank you all for the great reviews and I’m glad you all are getting value out of the show. If you like what you’ve been hearing, please let me know by leaving a review. I would love to give you a shoutout next week.
Previously we talked about investing for cash flow with our guest, Dave Zook. Dave is a great guy, and is involved in some interesting deals, from investing in ATM machines to Central American resort developments.
This week’s Friday Fundamental
The Apartment Syndication Model
Buying large multifamily apartments is often done through syndication. What’s syndication, you might ask? According to Merriam-Webster, a syndicate is a group of persons who combine to carry out a particular transaction or project.
You see, you might me more familiar with syndication than you realize. You syndicate air travel, dining, and many other things. Say you want to fly somewhere, but don’t have your own private jet? Well, you buy a ticket from an airline, along with other people, and together you pay the airline to take all of you to the same destination. You want someone to cook for you, but you don’t have a chef? Well, you can pick the restaurant of your liking, and pay for the food and service there, along with other guests. You see, buying apartment buildings is similar. You want to buy an apartment building, but can’t come up with the down payment? Well, raise money from other people and buy the apartment building together. Whala! You’re now a syndicator!
So let’s dive deeper into how syndicating works.
It often starts with a lead, or managing partner. This is the person who searches for the deal, puts the property under contract, leads the due diligence, finds investors, raises money, and then manages the deal once it’s acquired.
The managing partner raises capital from investors to fund the acquisition of the property. The acquisition cost includes the down payment, closing costs, attorney’s fees, SEC filings, any rehab costs, etc.
The property is then owned by the partnership of the managing partners, and the general partners, who are the investors.
This model allows for people to pool their resources – capital, experience, strengths, etc. to buy a property they might not otherwise have been able to individually.
The partners will typically have some equity in the property in exchange for their initial investment. They share the risk and the rewards of the deal. When the property is profitable through positive cash flow, the investors receive a return. However, as equity partners, the investors also share any downside the property may experience, although the managing partner will try to keep those events from ever happening.
The managing partner can also raise money from debt partners. Debt partners only receive a return on the money they have loaned, similar to a bank. They are paid regardless of how the property is performing, and have no equity stake in the deal.
Syndicating is a common model for apartment investors. It allows everyone involved to spread risk, and leverage other people’s resources.
I realized early on in my investing career that you’ll eventually run out of your own money to invest. I personally have goals to build a large multifamily portfolio, and I know that it will only be possible through raising capital from other investors.
We’ve had some experienced syndicators on the show already, from Rod Khleif to Joe Fairless. These guests have had tremendous success with syndicating deals. We talked with Dave Zook last week about the process of syndicating deals. We’ll continue to discuss raising money, putting together deals, and how you can get started in upcoming episodes, so stay tuned in for those!
That wraps up this week’s Friday Fundamentals with Jacob Ayers.

If you’re getting value out of this show, please let me know by leaving a rating and review in iTunes. Please subscribe to the show to be notified of new episodes! We have some great guests lined up! I’m going to continue to give shout outs to people who have reviewed the show starting next week! I look forward to reading your reviews!
As a thank you, I want to give you a gift! Click the link to redeem your free Audible trail and free audio book of your choice!
And also, please let me know what you think about this format! After all, I’m here to help you and that’s where I want the focus of the show to be. So please, if you have any questions or comments or just want to drop me a line, I would love to hear from you. You can contact me at www.JacobAyers.com or email me at info@JacobAyers.com.

Dave Zook

007: Investing for Cash Flow with Dave Zook

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Dave Zook is a successful business owner and experienced real estate investor active in the multi-family space and resort community development. He has real estate holdings in several states and several countries.
Dave has purchased over $60 Million worth of real estate since 2009 and has over 2300 Multi-Family Apartments in his portfolio.
Dave, along with his development partners, is actively involved in the early stage planning and development of the largest real estate development on the Island of Ambergris Caye, Belize, which has been rated “The #1 Island in the World” two years in a row (2013-2014) by Trip Advisor.
He is a published author and has been a guest speaker at the International Business Conference, The Jason Hartman Real Estate Mastermind, and on the Real Estate Guys Radio Show.
Dave, his Wife Susan, and their four children live in Lancaster County, PA.
Lightning Round
1. What was your biggest hurdle getting started in real estate investing, and how did you overcome it?
No experience in real estate, with no reputation as a real estate professional. The psychology and self-limiting beliefs. Dave was able to overcome those things with great partners.
2. If you were starting over with no education or capital, how would you start investing in real estate?

Get around the right people.
3. Do you have a personal habit that contributes to your success?
Discipline to not chase the shiny objects and stay focused on his goal. Dave says “Sometimes you have to say no to the good to say yes to the great.”
4. Do you have an online resource that you find valuable?
Real estate podcasts.
5. What book would you recommend to the listeners and why?
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

Key Points
1. Dave got started in multifamily investing from the need to diversify from his seasonal sales and marketing company and the need for a tax protection vehicle.
2. Getting around the right people. The team is more important than the asset.
3. ATM machines – tax free income.
4. Overcoming $200,000 on your first deal.

Dave’s Reasons Why
Dave strives to provide value to the people in his network, by providing opportunities to invest in cash flowing residential properties. He loves doing deals, and is an investor at heart. As long as he can create value to his investors and have fun by adding value to his community by giving them access to deals they normally wouldn’t have.
Resources
Visit Audible for a free trail, and a free audio book download.
Interview Links

info@therealassetinvestor.com

http://therealassetinvestor.com/

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006: Why Real Estate – Fundamental Friday

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Why Real Estate?
Many people ask Why Real estate? Everyone has a unique answer, and here is mine.
Real Estate is a tangible asset, and to me it is easily understood. I can wrap my head around rent, mortgages, insurance, repairs, etc. I can look at a property and ballpark estimate what it’s worth, and what it will rent for. I understand the transaction process – from renting to buying or selling. Real Estate is a relatively simple subject. There are no complex schemes, trades, or transactions. It’s up front and widely understood, at least to some extent, by almost everyone.
Real estate investing has always appealed to me for several reasons.
1. You have direct control over the asset. If you want to increase the property value with renovations or upgrades, you have the ability to do that. In multifamily properties, if you want to force appreciation by increasing income or lowering expenses, you can.
2. The property value will never go to 0. While you’re property value may depreciate over time, you’ll likely never see that property value be worth nothing.
3. Your financial investment is secured by an asset.
4. While certain types of real estate, like commercial or retail, may not be in demand forever due to changing consumer trends, residential real estate will always be in demand. People might be able to do away with brick and mortar stores, and order all of their products online, or work from home, rather than going into an office, but at the end of the day, everyone needs a place to live.
5. The power of leverage. The true power of real estate lies in the debt that can be placed on real estate. By using other people’s money, like a bank, you can put a small down payment on a property and then control it.
Real estate investing provides multiple income streams
1. The most obvious one is rental income. The cash flow you see each month is the rental income minus your expenses. Your expenses include the Principal, Interest, taxes, insurance, vacancy, and management.
2. Appreciation of the property. Historically, property values have increased 6%.
3. Loan pay down. My favorite kind of debt, is the debit that someone else pays for you. That’s exactly what residential real estate debt is. The tenant pays rent, and part of that goes towards paying down your principal.
4. Tax benefits. The tax benefits of real estate can prove to be the most valuable. The IRS will allow you to depreciate your asset over time, regardless of the market value. This is a phantom deduction that is extremely valuable to real estate investors. We’ll have an entire show or two dedicated to the tax advantages of real estate by someone much more knowledgeable than I am.
5. Hedging against inflation. In an inflationary economy, locking in a long term, low interest loan will hedge against inflation. Think of it this way, your $500 mortgage payment will be worth more today, than it is next year. That is to say that $1 today is more valuable than $1 in the future. While inflation will erode the purchasing power of your dollar, it will not erode the value of your mortgage payment. That mortgage payment will remain the same.

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005: The Power Partnerships with Joe Fairless

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Joe Fairless is a full time real estate investor and Host of the world’s longest running daily real estate podcast, Best Real Estate Investing Advice Ever. His career began in New York City as the youngest vice president of an advertising agency, to creating a company that now controls over $135,000,000 worth of real estate.
Joe’s, Best Ever Podcast, hosts distinguished real estate investors and entrepreneurs to share their advice and success stories. Past interview guests include Barbara Corcoran and Robert Kiyosaki.
Joe’s is the Author of the Best Real Estate Investing Advice Ever, Volume 1 & 2, which has been personally endorsed by Barbara Corcoran, and all profits are being donated to Junior Achievement of Cincinnati.

"This podcast offers a great perspective for people who are just getting started in real estate investing. I HIGHLY recommend it!"

- Nathan B.

Houston, TX

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- Ernest D.

La Porte,  Texas

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- Jonathan C.

Enid, OK

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